Gaining the Technology Leadership Edge, Episode #23

Hire Right with Peter Heyer

Show Notes

About The Guest(s):

Peter Hire is an elite certified recruiting expert with over 25 years of experience in helping companies find AI, ML, and IT talent. He specializes in finding talent that is not actively looking for job opportunities.

Summary:

In this episode, Mike interviews Peter Hire, an expert in finding AI, ML, and IT talent. Peter shares his insights on how to attract top talent to your company, emphasizing the importance of company culture and promoting the cool projects and successes of your team. He also discusses the challenges of remote work and the current market for remote positions. Peter advises companies to carefully consider their hiring needs and not to fall into the trap of hiring unnecessary positions, such as data scientists, without a clear understanding of their role and purpose within the organization.

Key Takeaways:

  • Attract top talent by promoting your company culture and showcasing the cool projects and successes of your team.
  • Remote work is still popular, but companies may prefer employees to come into the office at least some of the time.
  • Hiring a data scientist may not be necessary for every company, and it’s important to have a clear understanding of their role and purpose within the organization.

Quotes:

  • “Culture is number one. Is it true? Why is the position open? Why are there two or three positions open? And are we just beating our people to death?” – Peter Hire
  • “What would it look like if somebody came from outside of your industry to give you a fresh new look?” – Peter Hire
  • “If you don’t know what you don’t know, what are you doing to raise the bar in regards to getting the next best person that’s never heard of your company?” – Peter Hire

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Episode Details

Gaining the Technology Leadership Edge: Attracting Top Talent in the Tech Industry

Welcome to Gaining the Technology Leadership Edge, a podcast for tech executives. In this episode, we will explore the challenges and strategies involved in attracting top talent in the tech industry. Our guest today is Peter Hire, an elite certified recruiting expert with over 25 years of experience in helping companies find AI, ML, and IT talent. Peter specializes in finding talent that is not actively looking for job opportunities, and he believes that companies need to focus on promoting their unique value proposition to attract the best candidates.

The Importance of Culture and Purpose

When it comes to attracting top talent, culture is key. Peter emphasizes the importance of creating a company culture that aligns with the values and aspirations of the new generation of employees. He suggests that companies should showcase their culture and purpose through social media platforms, highlighting the cool projects they are working on and the positive impact they are making in the world. Peter states, “I want to work at a company that’s doing something important, that’s making a difference. And so doing those postings is going to enhance your presence in the marketplace and get you noticed.”

Leveraging Social Media for Talent Acquisition

Peter recommends using social media as a tool to attract top talent. By sharing success stories, celebrating team achievements, and highlighting the company’s values and initiatives, companies can create a strong employer brand that appeals to potential candidates. Peter states, “You’re literally wearing your culture on your sleeve, and if you don’t do it just randomly, hey, we hit 100 customers or whatever, yeah, ring the bells. That’s not it. But if it’s a trend that this is a value that our company has and this is why we want to post it on not only our company page, but on all the socials and let people really know, hey, we did something in regards to diversity. We did something in regards to helping out the homeless. We did something. So something that strikes to what the new generation of employee is all about.”

The Challenge of Finding Tech Talent

Finding top tech talent is a challenge in today’s competitive market. Peter suggests that companies need to go beyond traditional job postings and actively seek out candidates who are not actively looking for job opportunities. He states, “The tech talent wants to go to the next cool thing. And how are you promoting that? Your company, your software package, your solution is the next cool thing.” Peter believes that companies should focus on articulating their unique value proposition and showcasing the exciting projects and opportunities they offer to attract top talent.

The Role of Leadership in Talent Acquisition

Peter highlights the importance of leadership in talent acquisition. He advises CEOs and CTOs to focus on their core responsibilities and leave the hiring process to experts. Peter states, “When they’re doing that, they’re doing a disservice. Go manage your people. Go manage your company. Go take care of your series funding. And so the folks that just gave you the money, know what they’re getting. When they gave you the money, they didn’t invest in you to come be a recruiter or to come hire somebody.” He suggests that companies should hire experts in talent acquisition to ensure they find the best candidates for their organization.

The Role of Data Scientists and AI in the Tech Industry

Data scientists and AI professionals are in high demand in the tech industry. However, Peter advises companies to carefully assess their needs before hiring a data scientist. He suggests that companies should consider whether they truly need a data scientist or if a team of strong developers and data analysts would suffice. Peter states, “With the exception of a Microsoft or an Amazon or a LinkedIn, nobody has a big enough data set that needs five data scientists. They don’t. What’s the data? What are we trying to do with it?” He emphasizes the importance of having meaningful work for data scientists to ensure their engagement and retention.

The Future of Remote Work in the Tech Industry

Remote work has become increasingly popular in the tech industry, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic. Peter believes that remote work will continue to be a desirable option for many tech professionals. However, he suggests that companies may still prefer some level of in-office presence to ensure productivity and collaboration. Peter states, “Companies want people to come into the office a little bit. Unfortunately, they want to kind of watch them, babysit them, make sure they’re not just watching Netflix and having Cheetos at home.” He advises companies to have clear guidelines and expectations for remote work to avoid any potential issues.

Conclusion and Future Outlook

Attracting top talent in the tech industry requires a strategic approach that goes beyond traditional job postings. Companies need to focus on promoting their unique value proposition, showcasing their culture and purpose, and leveraging social media to attract the best candidates. It is essential for companies to have a clear understanding of their hiring needs and to hire experts in talent acquisition to ensure they find the right candidates for their organization. As the tech industry continues to evolve, companies will need to adapt their hiring strategies to attract and retain top talent in a competitive market.

In conclusion, attracting top talent in the tech industry is a multifaceted process that requires a deep understanding of the industry, effective marketing strategies, and a strong company culture. By focusing on these key areas, companies can position themselves as desirable employers and attract the best candidates in the market. As technology continues to advance and the demand for tech talent grows, companies must stay ahead of the curve and continuously adapt their talent acquisition strategies to remain competitive in the industry.

Contact Information for Peter Heyer

Website: https://heyerexpectations.com/

Timestamp Summary
0:00:05 Introduction to the podcast and its purpose
0:01:08 Discussion on finding talent that is not actively looking for a job
0:03:19 Importance of company culture in attracting talent
0:04:31 Using social media to showcase the company’s successes and projects
0:06:20 Importance of making a difference and promoting diversity, equity, and inclusion
0:08:17 Walking the talk when it comes to diversity and inclusion
0:09:57 Considering internal promotions and training opportunities
0:11:52 The need for HR expertise in the hiring process
0:13:03 Potential issues with remote work expectations
0:13:17 Justifying office space and potential bait-and-switch situations
0:13:55 CEO’s role in talent acquisition and its cost to the company
0:15:14 Importance of utilizing candidate and employee databases effectively
0:16:24 Typical engagement process for hiring developers
0:18:55 Experience of feeling unproductive in a consulting job
0:22:22 Market for 100% remote work and its current status
0:24:01 Considerations for implementing remote work policies
0:25:10 Benefits of working off-site and the need for trust
0:26:36 Importance of well-thought-out plans and instructions for remote work
0:26:46 Fascination with tech’s ability to revolutionize automation
0:27:46 The role of talent pool and developers in tech hiring
0:27:36 Importance of tech talent who can communicate effectively
0:29:06 AI positions in demand: Chat GPT, data scientists, machine learning engineers
0:30:27 Need for CEOs to evaluate if a data scientist is truly necessary
0:31:57 Importance of providing meaningful work for data scientists
0:32:25 CEOs often overspend on unnecessary positions
0:33:24 Analogy of sports teams and the desire to have top talent
0:33:48 Contact information for Peter
0:34:56 Recommendation for Peter’s expertise in talent acquisition
0:35:04 Conclusion and closing remarks